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|Friday, February 16th, 2007|
it's all kinda basic really
Maybe it's my whole acknowledging more than one God thing but when you come right down to it there's a little something funny in the water here. I mean the Greeks had the god Zeus and his extended family to worshipm the Norse had Odin and his extended family to worship, the Wiccans have Gaea, the Egyptians...you get the idea. It's pretty much a deity and his or her bretheren guarding over a specific group of people.
When Moses popped up with his whole "Let my people go!" riff he was a representative of their god (who is generally just known as 'God'; it;'s all about the capital G wth this one). The Egyptians did not discredit the existance of this deity but simply labelled It has was appropriate from their point of view; God of the Jews.
Time goes on, things change, a nice wholesome virgin girl gives birth to Jesus/Yeshua/whatever name you choose to refer to him by; the son of God (big G). For the longest time I didn't wholly buy that the Christians, as a whole, believed Jesus was actually God given flesh and not just the son of...but a post I made to that effect a couple weeks back has shown otherwise. However, this does represent a mildly odd problem when you think about it...
...least when I do.
The Jews worship God.
The Christians worship Jesus.
While it can be argued, and it is by many of them, that the Christians acknowledge that Jesus is in fact God (little g)...the Jews do not share this opinion. Seeing as it was their God (big G) first then it stands to reason they should be the authority on this.
So which way do we look here?
Jesus and God are different beings, said so by the different people that worship them. The Chrisitians can toss up that "Holy Trinity" bit as much as they like but without the faith that God originated from backing the concept (an oddly polytheistic "3 as 1" concept no matter how you slice it) then it can not be used as an irrefutable fact.
Thoughts? Current Mood: productive
|Tuesday, February 13th, 2007|
|Wednesday, February 7th, 2007|
Just a brief introduction of myself to the community, i'll try not to be to awkward.... :) Current Mood: pensive
|Wednesday, January 31st, 2007|
|Sunday, January 28th, 2007|
Ridiculous Religious Question of the Week
8:57 AM 1/28/07 ·
It kind of started with I am woman, hear me roar
but I can never remember what the sound that came after that was. I mean, if it were I am man, hear me roar
I'd expect it to be followed by a massive belch. From the 2nd Batman movie it was I am Catwoman, hear me roar
and I'm pretty sure that was followed by a "Meow".
It's an empowerment thing.
Bet you're wondering what the Hell does this have to do with religion.
The way I see it Jesus was a pretty empowered guy: son of God, walked on water, raised the dead, great at party tricks; the guy had it going on. So naturally, goofy freak that I am, I had to ask myself...
...what would Jesus say in this kinda circumstance.
Sadly, I'm drawing a blank.
Fortunately I have all of you!
Please fill in the blank:
I am Jesus, hear me roar ________
How would Jesus roar? Current Mood: silly
|Monday, January 22nd, 2007|
The best ones...
are the ones that ignore the BIG blue sign that CLEARLY states- "government property- NO TRESPASSING. NO SOLICITING."
The ones that ignore that sign are the best.
You know who I'm talking about.
THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. DUHN DUHN DUUUHHHHNNNNN!!! XD
I am a nocturnal Kemetic priestess of Anubis in training. On Saturday, my rare day off, at 9 IN THE FREAKING MORNING, I am about to slip into my delta waves and dream of being a civilian again(is in the navy), when the annoying shrill of the doorbell pries into my nearly dominant subconcious and I jar awake. I am very very irritated, but figure it may be the post man, which at the time was okay, considering i was expecting some trade goods for rituals. I come tromping down the stairs in my ragged black silk robe and tousled hair, muttering angrily.
Two cheerful and slightly insane faces peer at me from atop polo collars through my foyer. I want to just roll my eyes and slam the door in their faces, but i figure they have GOT to be insane- i remember the big garish sign in front of the gov't housing facility. (it's off base housing aprmnts.)
"what?" i snarl, making sure to show off my teeth and a wrinkled maw. I tend to get a tad animalistic when you disturb my eating sleeping, sex or world of warcraft.
They look taken aback, but regather their composure and thrust pamphlets at me. I glare at them, meeting their unwavering gaze.
"we wish to spread tidings of our great lord!" they say. I smirk and lean against the doorway, letting my pentagram necklace slide into veiw.
Let me paint a picture for you- an average built short female with hair so messy it would do weird al proud, wearing a battered silk black robe, and a chiffon black nightgown that looks like it came from interview with the vampire, topped off with a silver pentagram and a few choice pieces of silver jewelry that include a snarling wolf ring and a cuff bracelet inscribed with the eye of horus, and a very evil smirk of a very fatigued priestess in training that just got interrupted from sleep.
So they definitely know I'm no christian.
They begin to hound me and tell me that if I repent now I just might be saved, that all filthy heathens will burn in hell. I stop them with a finger, and say "what you say interests me, but my feet are cold. let me get my slippers" So i leave them in the foyer and go the fridge and grab half a pound of thawed raw hamburger and conceal it behind my billowing robe. They launch right into their tirade as soon as I come back into view- they fail to notice i am still missing slippers.
I grin most evilly at them and clutch a handful of meat and fling it at the closest one. it hits his head with a wet thwap, and blood runs down his face. the other stares in shock, then backs away slowly. I lunge at them, throwing meat at them as they run, all the while screaming-
"who's filthy now, you cowardly pig dogs!!?? Quit trying to convert people to make your chances of getting into heaven better. READ THE DAMN BIBLE AND LEAVE ME ALONE!"
Oh it was a waste of twenty minutes and half a pound of hamburger meat, but it was overall one of the best saturday mornings ever.
And the JW's haven't been back since, and though my neighbors were shocked, they still love me. Current Mood: devious
|Sunday, January 21st, 2007|
Funny Ha Ha
I suspect there are a lot of them out there but I only know a couple. With all the humor that seems to surround Jesus, in the form of standup comedy and stuyff we pick up in school, you'd think there'd be a lot of them. Short of cracking open a joke book and going to the religious humor I can't name that many...
...but as I said, I know two.( Warning: contents may be sacriligiousCollapse )
Do you know any Jesus jokes? Current Mood: giggly
|Saturday, January 20th, 2007|
This questions gonna make the rounds...
...just so I can link stuff to here to get the widest range of answers to someone I've been arguing with for about the last 11 hours·ish.
Yesterday I asked a question that had nothing to do with whether or not Jesus literally was God made flesh, though I included it in a preamble to better define the question I actually was asking, when this particular person decided to bypass the question and concentrate on the preamble. There's been a lot of going back and forth on this one issue but the biggest problem I'm having with him is that he insists that anyone who claims to be Christian but does not believe that Jesus was God made flesh, not just the son of, is actually not a Christian.
So, here's the three levelled question for you:
- Do you believe Jesus was God or not?
- If you don't believe Jesus was God do you think this automatically means you're not Christian?
- Why is it you feel you are Christian even though you don't believe this supposedly undeniable fact?
Have fun with it, the connecting post, with all the linkage from the answering places, will be in my journal but not immediately. I know there's those of you that feel as I do, that Jesus/Yeshua wasn't literally God. I'm just trying to show this to de guy in question while showing that holding this opinion doesn't automatically get you booted out of the Church. Current Mood: peaceful
|Friday, January 19th, 2007|
this kinda stuff comes to me when I'm on the toilet
So far as I remember God never appeared in human form to anybody. I'm not one that believes Jesus was God in human form but even if that were the case that would be God as Jesus
but not God as God
. God appeared to people as a burning bush and a ray of light and possibly some animal representation in one form or another. I'm sure there were many others...but God as God
never appears to people as a person.Question:
If God never appeared to people as a person then why is it that it was so long the viewpoint of many to picture God as a very old man with a long flowing beard? Current Mood: I'm a little acidic
|Friday, January 12th, 2007|
Personally I say yes!
Was having one of my usual odd religious chats, sparked by my always bizarre religious posts, when this came up. Because of it, rather that going on into an extensively lengthy post (preamble is my family's genetic curse), I have one simple question for you.
Can God be sexy? Current Mood: weird
|Monday, January 8th, 2007|
a couple other posts of mine inspired this one
9:48 PM 1/7/07 ·
I'm rather well known for a number of things. There's the fact I tend to ask direct and blatantly raw questions, oftimes none that anyone thought to put forth before. There's also the fact I'm something of a big goofball. Together they aren't a deadly combo but one should be wary nonetheless.
While I don't post every bizarre religious query to every single religious comm I'm a member of...I do post stuff across the board quite a bit. The responses I tend to view as holy wars...not just because I find the sudden outpouring of information to be happy inducing, evn the stuff I don't necessarily agree with, but because of the number of arguments/debates that erupt in the threads of each of these communities. Course, I get a number of people that end their comments with "I'll pray for you" which is nice and all but kinda gives the impression that because I came up with the initial post there's something worrisome or wrong with me.
Not so sure I'm thrilled about that but I'll take what support I can get.
A stretch back I put a list together of a bunch of random thoughts regarding Jesus, one of which was that I kinda hoped he at least knew the pleasure of a woman sometime before his crucifixtion. It was not intended to be sacriligious, nor as an insult to his image in any way...I just thought it would've been nice. It's kind of the beauty of random thoughts.
That whole random element thingamabob.
Last week I put up a post wondering what is it about a rabbi that they can have sex and marry but a priest cannot. The answers were very helpful in that but it brought up an interesting point which kinda reminded me on that little bit from my list. The defining point was that a priest and a rabbi aren't exactly the same thing...that a rabbi is more of a teacher than a religious officiary. Also that it is one of the guiding principles, from the Torah and by extension the Bible, that we should be fruitful and multiply. Hence...rabbis are bit with the multipliying.
You know, there could be a good pun in there for the similarity between rabbi
seeing as bunnies are all about multiplication.
Now while the people that followed the teachings of Jesus, a hundred or so years after his passing, are Christians he was not. Jesus was Jewish and a simple man...once you get passed that whole Son of God bit. I've never bought into the whole Lord & Savior bit because while I do accept the latter the former is quite askew to me. He wasn't a lord, the man never wanted special treatment and set it aside when it was offered. He was very charismatic and insightful and, above all else, a teacher.
...I say Jesus was a rabbi.
Besides the teaching and other things that go with the title...there's that whole "fruitful & multiply" clause.
There's been a lotta debate since his time to now that Jesus might've had siblings, that Joseph & Mary had other children. Wouldn't it be even more interesting if Jesus himself had children. Be it with the ever controversial Mary Magdelyne or some other nice lady that made that special connection with the guy...I for one find the concept that Jesus may've had his own family and children to be a beautiful thing.
So, why is it that so many seem to find the concept of Jesus going to the happy place (having sex) being a bad thing/sacriligious/an affront to God? I mean he has a wife, they do the deed, there's children...
...what a concept to have the descendents of God wandering around the world to this day. Current Mood: such a headache
|Friday, December 22nd, 2006|
In my continued quest to come up with a question that no one can quote scripture at me for...
Let's say, hypothetically, God pops up in front of you and asks for a cookie. What kind would you get?
Obviously there's no wrong answer to this but feel free to explain your response. Current Mood: silly
|Monday, December 4th, 2006|
I may wander a bit here
I've never fully gotten why God decided, for however long It was sitting there before the idea came to mind, to make us. Yes, it's the age old "Why are we here?" with a bit of a twist but I really don't see the point.
Don't get me wrong. I'm very happy to be here...this is not a complaint. It just doesn't make any sense.
God is supposedly all knowing (oniscient) and all powerful (omnipotent) so it's not like It was lacking anything prior to our being on the scene. I've heard people say that we are here to love God but that just makes the Big Huy seem overly vain and narcissistic. Others say that we're a part of a puzzle and that at some undisclosed point in the future we'll do something that will give God a clue...
...course, both of these kinda fall in the face of the omnipotent & omniscient aspects.
My age old desire to be buried with a baseball bat so that when I get up there I can give God a piece of my mind and bash It in the big toe...
...notwithstanding my belief that the "made in his image" bit meant more soul and not form; I keep the image in my head that God's an amorphous purple blob with a large unblinking eye just off center...
*we bring you back to the previously viewed rant*
...for not leaving clear and concise directions. You'd think such a divinity would've been able to leave better directions than the confusing mess that is the average VCR instruction manual. Actually, compared to most religious texts, VCR directions make a lot more sense.GAH!
Okay, rant done. May not've made much sense but I gotta goto work now.
Why do you (yeah you
) think we're here?in my continued quest to write something no one can quote scripture at me for Current Mood: energetic
|Wednesday, November 29th, 2006|
What's in a name anyway?
This is kinda touching on a post I made last night about taking God's name in vain
, though not entirely. The thing of it is that when you come right down to it no one really takes God's name in vain because "God" isn't a name.
It's a title.
It's a position of status.
It's the sign you'd see on God's cubicle...if God were the type of deity to sit in a cubicle.
I've never quite understood why it is no one refers to God by an actual name, instead going with the title. This is not a problem you get with polytheists...although that might be that since you're dealing with a multitude of gods in those instances it would be a little confusing to refer to each one as simply "God". Suppose if it were the title and the field of expertise that might work but really...
...names are much simpler.
A stretch back I figured Islam had the leading edge on the whole use of name thing...until someone explained to me that "Allah" is just "God" in another language.
The name in vain
post popped up the possible reason that it used to be very bad mojo (for wont of a better word) to actually refer to God by a name. Sadly I was kinda floating on fumes of caffine at the time and don't remember why that is so let's stick with the essentials; maybe that same person will revisit that response and remind me.
Near as I know, from a Judeo/Christian perspective, God has two perfectly decent names to work with...maybe just one because I heard there was something of a scandal on one of them; no, I don't remember what. Those names are Jehovah (scandalized one) and Yaweh. These are two really nice, happy, easy to remember names.
Why doesn't anybody use them? Why is it all about the title and not the name? Current Mood: full
|Thursday, November 16th, 2006|
I've had this thought before
What brought it up this time was a discussion with someone and he seemed kinda down on Jesus, saying that the man only preached himself and how he was the son of God and any number of other things that were all fairly self promoting. My take was that we only have the Bible's say on what Jesus did or did not say. The people that bound the Bible could've taken a little artistic license or just omitted whole bits of what the man actually said and what we've got are scattered bits out of context.
I mean really: there's not a body on this earth that can attest to having heard anything Jesus said firsthand.
This got me to thinking though. Jesus had a whole bunch of followers (disciples) and they all wrote down things that're in the Bible. Now given that Jesus was reading at an early age and reinterpreting scripture to boot...it stands to reason the guy could write.
Why is there no Book of Jesus? Everybody else has got a Book, segment in the Bible that a body can hardly ask a religious question without others quoting a passage to them from. Did Jesus write one and it got lost or did he simply not write anything at all?
Anybody know anything on this? Or have I just wandered a bit too far into my happy place? Current Mood: weird
Why Jesus for God's sake?
12:05 PM 11/12/06 ·
It's so interesting how the littlest thing can cause conflict. Christianity is, more or less, Judaism with just the tiniest difference in opinion regarding who the Messiah is. I've even heard it said that there are those that think the fact that the heads of the Hebrew faith, back then...not now, were backing the Roman Empire in executing Jesus might also be a fair point of contention.
Let's ignore most of that for just a sec.
The Christians believe that Jesus is the Messiah, sometimes referred to as Jesus H. Christ even though I'm fairly certain that is not the family name that Mary & Joseph ever used, but his own people don't...
...pick a tense.
So, what I'd like to know is what is it the Hebrew faith, and the Jewish people since it seems even the unfaithful were looking forward to the arrival, thought Jesus was lacking so as to not be the Messiah. Religions, regardless of what form they take, are really big with signs and omens and qualities. It seems likely that there were supposed to be a number of events, qualities in the person, sigils, and God knows what else so that when the Messiah popped up everybody would know.
Only everybody didn't know.
So, that brings us to some interesting questions:
- Does anyone know how the Messiah was supposed to be known prior to Jesus popping up?
- How long was Jesus alive before the Messiah tag was attached?
- When Jesus was established as the Messiah what was it about him that made some of the faithful disbelieve this?
- On the offchance they make another movie, and you know they will, who do you think should play Jesus?
Okay, maybe not so much that last one.
Not that I necessarily think Jesus was the Messiah...frankly I don't care one way or the other. He was a very great guy who had some very important things to say and that's good enough for me. Current Mood: crazy
|Monday, November 13th, 2006|
Not what you came with but what you've done
1:00 PM 11/12/06 ·
I've never been a big fan of an ancient belief, that is still practiced in the world today, that the sins of the father are visited upon his children
. It's not limited in scope to just that, pretty much any ancestor done wrong and the descendents get blamed.
What a crock of *insert appropriate word here*!
Not surprisingly, to me at any rate, as an extension to this I don't believe in original sin. It just doesn't make any sense to me. Sure, folks sin but they shouldn't be blamed for the sins of others just because of some distant familial line. If I'm not mistaken, the whole original sin
package stems from either Adam & Eve (snacking on the fruit of knowledge) or Cain killing Abel (nothing like a little sibling rivalry).
Either way, their sins were their sins. No one elses.
However, people do sin; it's a thing! There does seem to be some waywardness in what is and isn't a sin depending on a person's belief system. However, let's keep this fairly simple.
What are your sins? Yeah, you...the person reading this. If you're so gung ho on everybody sinning then you must have some idea what your own sins are.
Care to share with the class? Current Mood: indescribable
|Friday, November 10th, 2006|
Hi, I'm really interested in what people think about this question and I'd greatly appreciate your answer. Thank you.
In your opinion why did Osama Bin Laden attack the World Trade Centers?
P.S. This is for my own personal curiosity.
All answers will be screened.
|Wednesday, November 1st, 2006|